The only thing I know from yesterday's info is that the roads in Pine Brook near 7 Eleven on Changebridge road are open. I do not know the names of the roads. Sorry. Maybe someone else can give you more detailed information.

This is not the time for politics but to get together and help each other.

little confused on how "Rt 23 from Kinnelon to Wayne" would fall under the contral of the Mayor from Montville?

Tom Schopper, are you that clueless? If only 25% of stations have power (it may be less for all I know), 100% of the people have to utilize them, and they run out. The other 75% without power, have gas in the tanks but cannot get it out. The original 25% in the example can't refill fast enough. The mayor is RIGHT, there is plenty of gas that cannot currently get pumped. Do you get it or are you just pathetic and have to blame somebody for your problems?

Well, Karl -- kudos to you for keeping this an intellectual discussion and not reverting to name-calling... [Insert sarcasm HERE]. So let's see if I can break it down so *you* can get it.

To begin: I never, not once, said I had a problem or blamed anyone *for* a problem.

My point was and is that the Mayor is wrong to say that there is no shortage -- because there is (and the facts and common sense prove it). And if you think the Mayor is right, then you are wrong too. Here's why: this is a State-wide and region-wide problem, so let's factor out the fact that Montville is or has been mainly without power -- the issue is wider than what stations do or don't have electricity in Montville. So look around: are there stations (your "made up" 75%) that don't have power? Sure (even though you just pulled numbers out of your....hat....we'll use them). But there are stations that *do* have power and *did* have gas and *did* have lines out the wazoo even as of yesterday... but today, those stations are closed -- with signs that say "no gas". You even stated why: because they can't get filled up fast enough. [continued]

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And why is that? Heck -- if the 3/4th majority of stations in your scenario don't even have power, the 1/4 minority that do *should* have more than enough supply coming their way to remain open -- but they don't. They can't get deliveries. Because the shipping lanes into the ports have been closed/hobbled and the tank terminals in Linden etc. have been shut down since the storm. Which has meant that the supplies coming to those open station are short, doesn't it. Right - it does. That's what a shortage IS, for Pete's sake. If there was no shortage, the stations that have power and have been pumping would still *be* pumping. But in large numbers, they aren't. Because there is a delivery shortage. It's really that simple -- "do you get it"? The mayor is wrong and you are wrong. And the quotes from the Gov. today in signing the order to ration even/odd plates confirms it. (See: "Calling the fuel supply in the state a 'shortage' that could endanger public health, safety and welfare, the rationing will take place in Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Hunterdon, Middlesex, Morris, Monmouth, Passaic, Somerset, Sussex, Union and Warren counties." http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/sandy_gas_ration_12_counties.html#incart_maj-story-1)

So lose the name-calling, stop putting words in my mouth and try to understand what is going on here.

Dan - why hasn't the town just put into effect odd/even days - it worked fine in the past . The lines would be cut in half . Belleville has just put that in place

Exactly, 'mom' -- and that is somehow "no shortage" *and* a point that some here are "a little confused" about? This is no way that people are "merely topping off their tanks" nor would be remedied if people just sat home and waited it out. Ludicrous.

I'm sure that is the case, Ariana -- and that certainly isn't helping things. But the fact remains that it made no sense for the mayor to have said there is no shortage when the facts and the Governor's own words and actions today show otherwise.